Re: Rigging

["Gil Lund" <gil@KubPQW1M1Jmqk7xku0Q0zrNccwbfqcJeDdIyH7vrcWj0IEIacZeELScldn8PZaetkXkRnonhLHoR.yahoo.invalid>]

Mark,
On the Synergy 1000 using a retractable bow sprit the ONLY option is 
to  have redundant sheets. One on port and one on starboard. Both 
going to the same clew. Just like we do on the SJ24 Genoa. All the 
foredeck person needs to do on that boat is to hold on and try not 
fall overboard. 

I assume you are not talking about the Synergy when you say it takes 
45 sec to Jibe. With a good crew we rutinly end for end jibe my Dash 
(34 ft with an awful lot of sails) in about 10 sec without even 
braking out in a sweat. I take 60 sec to jibe it when I am 
singlehanding using my Autohelm and I dont even come close to look 
rushed or frantic.
gil
  

--- In SJ-24@yahoogroups.com, m_kanzler@y... wrote:
> 
> This may frighten some of the gys her... but...
> I agree with you.   ;)
> 
> I race on a Synergy 1000 (33ft w/ lots of sail)
> and they have the redundant sheets. If your
> timing is right and the trimmers and helm are
> doing their jobs efficiently (watching the bow 
> for timing cues, and calling the trip because 
> they can see better from farther aft) then jibing
> is a snap. With a well practiced team and end-for-
> end jibe takes about 45 seconds, and doesn't even
> look rushed and frantic.
> 
> The Carbon Fiber pole is the only way to go on
> boats over about 35 feet, and is nice on boats
> over about 27 feet. Especially if you have
> women or youngsters or other small foredeck
> crew. Or if your bowman is old... though you'll
> probably kill him soon by letting him work the
> bow, and then you're back to the above crewmembers.
> 
> I did a 30 mile race on Saturday, and it was an 
> asymmetric spinakker (no pole), and I'm a bit
> beat up from stretching, bending, contorting,
> and swimming through the sail on takedowns.
> Sore muscle and a few sore spots (not quite
> brusies, but the results of bumps none.the.less
> It took us 9 hours... light winds. We beat a Formula
> 40 catamaran that was 2nd in the multihull fleet...
> we took the bullet for our class.
> Here's a link to the results... I was aboard
> "Synge" (Sail no 1003). We had a great day!
> 
> http://www.ssseries.org/rvash.htm
> 
> 
> --- In SJ-24@yahoogroups.com, "Gil Lund" <gil@l...> wrote:
> > 
> > Mark
> > I have found that unless you are set up to "dip pole jibe" single 
> > sheets are the way to go on even fairly big boats. We end for end 
> > jibe with single sheets on my Dash 34 without problems of any 
kind. 
> > The advent of light graphite poles has made it a lot easier to do 
> > this. It also helps if you have the driving / trimming skills to 
> > carry the spinnaker comfortably with no pole at all for the time 
it 
> > takes to do the jibe. To be competitive downwind we practice 
> running 
> > the spinnaker cleanly without the pole with wind angles of at 
least 
> > +/-15 deg. This skill will give you a big tactical advantage and 
is 
> a 
> > greate tool if you need to fake a jibe and throw your cometition 
> off 
> > their stride.
> > gil
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In SJ-24@yahoogroups.com, m_kanzler@y... wrote:
> > > 
> > > The SJ-24 is small enough that you don't need them.
> > > 
> > > On the bigger boats it is easier to hook the end of
> > > the pole to the lazy afterguy than to do it when
> > > it's under tension. If you only have one line to
> > > each clew/tack it is always under tension.
> > > 
> > > In light air you don't connect the lazy sheets,
> > > they are not used until the wind can support both
> > > lines.
> > > 
> > > Here's a link:
> > > http://www.harken.com/rigtips/spinnaker.php
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In SJ-24@yahoogroups.com, "Gil Lund" <gil@l...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why in the world would anybody use double sheets on a boat 
that 
> > is 
> > > > designed to do end to end jibes?